I wouldn't take too seriously what any Mormon says to you, an outsider. Cult members always try to paint a rosier, more moderate picture of their beliefs and practices to outsiders. Keep that in mind.
Island Man
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slimboyfat joins the Mormons!
by slimboyfat ini know that some people on the board have experience of being mormons, so i would be interested in your feedback.
at church this afternoon it was an uncanny experience.
in the past i've read a lot about mormons, so i thought i was prepared in general for what it would be like.
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Need some help: Existential crisis in full swing
by Freeandclear inso is anyone else having an existential crisis after becoming fully awake?
let me explain.
about 2 years ago i read coc, still believed and tried to get back in da troof.
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Island Man
Why are you having an existential crisis? You should be enjoying life to the fullest. Not many people have succeeded in escaping the drudgery of religion. Keep this text in mind whenever you feel envious of christians who seem to have a life of purpose:
"If in this life only we have hoped in Christ, we are to be pitied more than anyone." - 1 Corinthians 15:19
Paul was saying that without the future eternal life that christians hope to have by a resurrection, christianity becomes a pitiable waste of ones life. From your atheist perspective, that truly is the case! Think about it: millions of people around the world are living pitiable lives - wasting the only lives they have on a myth that isn't true; foregoing higher education; subjecting themselves to ridicule and persecution; foregoing a loving relationship with that soul mate they met just because they're not of the same religion; wasting sundays listening to boring sermons; foregoing perfectly harmless entertainment; feeling guilty about enjoying too much of the pleasures of life. A pitiable life indeed!
Why does there have to be an overarching purpose to life imposed on you from the outside? Religion implanted that notion in you to make the drudgery or worshiping a higher power seem appealing - like your part of some grand scheme bigger than yourself. Well, actually you are part of something much bigger - but its not some supernatural intelligence. You are a part of the universe; you are part of the fascinating concept of the universe attempting to understand itself. You will never become worm food. Only your body will.
You can make a difference in the world. You can give meaning to your life. Today we are standing on the shoulders of those who lived before us. Their lives certainly had purpose. Everyone contributes something to humanity that has a ripple effect that lives on long after they're gone. Just try you best to make positive ripples and have an enjoyable life.
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How to wind up a JW
by slimboyfat intell him that jesus probably didn't get married or it would have mentioned it in the bible, but at the same time we can't be 100% sure he didn't get married because it doesn't specifically say he didn't get married.
stand back watch fireworks.. i thought it was a pretty reasonable thing to say.
pop.
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Island Man
The best way to wind up a JW is to use their own fallacious tactics when debating them. Then when they point out the errors of the tactics you're using take their corrections and apply back at them to their use of the very same fallacious arguments in defending the JW belief system.
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Islam is a religion of peace (2)
by Coded Logic inin behalf of the horrific events of saturday night, i just wanted to take a moment to remind everyone that islam is a religion of peace.
it doesn’t matter that the quran explicitly says that homosexuals should be stoned to death (7:84) - it’s still a religion of peace.
and it doesn’t matter that the scriptures say that all gay men should be killed (sunan 1:152) - islam doesn’t in anyway condone violence.. it doesn’t matter that every mainstream imam calls homosexuality a sin "worse the adultery" - it’s not a religion of bigotry.. it doesn’t matter that 61% of muslims in the uk think gay acts should be made illegal - islam has nothing against the gay community.. it doesn’t matter that countries with sharia law actively persecute the lgbt community - islam is all about peace and love.
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Island Man
"Religion is a snare and a racket."
That one slogan is Watchtower's greatest and only meaningful contribution to humankind.
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Islam is a religion of peace (2)
by Coded Logic inin behalf of the horrific events of saturday night, i just wanted to take a moment to remind everyone that islam is a religion of peace.
it doesn’t matter that the quran explicitly says that homosexuals should be stoned to death (7:84) - it’s still a religion of peace.
and it doesn’t matter that the scriptures say that all gay men should be killed (sunan 1:152) - islam doesn’t in anyway condone violence.. it doesn’t matter that every mainstream imam calls homosexuality a sin "worse the adultery" - it’s not a religion of bigotry.. it doesn’t matter that 61% of muslims in the uk think gay acts should be made illegal - islam has nothing against the gay community.. it doesn’t matter that countries with sharia law actively persecute the lgbt community - islam is all about peace and love.
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Of course Islam is religion of peace. Inshah Allah, the road to peace is a peacefully flowing river of the blood of all the infidels. Allah Akbar!
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My 1,000th Post! =)
by Divergent inafter 2 years on the forum, i've finally reached my 1,000th post!.
post #1,000 is dedicated to everyone who i have communicated with & the friends i've made here.
also, to simon who is the reason why we are all here in the first place - thank you for your hard work in making this site what it is.
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Coming to think of it, I don't recall seeing a posting from you at all last month. That means you have become an Irregular Poster. Also, you joined 2 years ago and you've only now reached 1000 posts? That means you're averaging around 42 posts per month. Isn't that a little low? You need to work on getting your posts up or Simon might have to take away some of your privileges . . . just so you can "make straight paths for your
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Evolution is a Fact #38 - The Origin of Complex Cells
by cofty inin 1966 microbiologist kwang jeon was studying a population of amoebae in the lab when they began to die off unexpectedly.
he noticed thousands of tiny dots in the cytoplasm of each individual which turned out to be a bacterial infection.
most of them weakened and died but surprisingly a small percentage recovered and seemed to be back to normal.
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Flagellum smagellum! I find it odd that a microbiologist would bring up an argument that was brought up and soundly refuted at the Dover trial. You need to update your knowledge, Vidqun. Bacterial flaggellum is not irreducibly complex. It is the imagination and knowledge of creationists that is irreducibly simple.
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Major fail on last convention video
by ILoveTTATT2 inas noted on reddit,.
the last convention video,.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d43eygztxl4plagiarized the sound from this album:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2udtlqwtjd4 .
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I think this is all shows that the content for the convention program may have been rushed. It seems like this convention may have been hurriedly cobbled together in response to growing disloyalty, murmuring and disassociations in the wake of the Australia pedophile scandal and other issues.
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Are the witnesses really False prophets?
by MrTheocratic inwhen you read the following statements from the wt.
organization... do they satisfy you?
or better stated...... should you be satisfied by there answers?.
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Are the [JW leadership / organization] really false prophets?
No. They're just an organization that claim to be spirit-directed; claim that God directs his people through them; and regularly refer to their own extra-biblical policies and instructions as being Jehovah's instructions and direction. (compare Deuteronomy 18:20a) They also equate leaving the org. with leaving Jehovah and they claim to be Jehovah's channel. They have also made several date predictions for the end of the world and predicted in the Awake magazine mission statement, for many years, that the generation that saw the events of 1914 will not pass away before the new world - this prediction they referred to as "the Creator's promise". But that was not tantamount to making a prediction in God's name, no, no, no. (compare Deuteronomy 18:22; Luke 21:8)
Obviously, all that I've said above does not match in any way, shape or fashion the definition and functions of one who acts as a prophet of God. Because quite unlike what I've described above, a prophet of God is one who is directed by God's spirit and is used by God to direct his people. Such a person will issue directions to the people while referring to such directions as coming from God. Often, prophets would also make predictions of future events, referring to such predictions as coming from the Creator, Jehovah. See, this is very , very, very different from the role of the JW organization mentioned above. lol.
And just because the founder of the organization, C.T. Russel published a volume of Studies in the Scriptures, filled with false apocalyptic date predictions, entitled: "The Time is at Hand!", that in no way, shape or fashion means that Jesus' warning at Luke 21:8 applies to him and his organization:
"And he said, “See that you are not led astray. For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am he!’ and, ‘The time is at hand!’ Do not go after them." - Luke 21:8
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New commentary on revelation coming up?
by EdenOne ini heard through the grapevine about a forthcoming book:.
together through the great tribulation - come to jehovah's mountain.
still awaiting solid confirmation though.
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If they ever redo Revelation I'm betting they will never put it in print but make it available only in electronic format - so they can easily change it.